Transcript [00:06] Conservatives are once [00:07] again appalled by comments [00:09] made by podcast host [00:10] Tucker Carlson. In the [00:12] latest episode, Tucker was [00:13] critical of Dietrich [00:14] Bonhoeffer, the the [00:16] anti-Nazi Christian [00:18] evangelist executed by the [00:19] Third Reich in 1945. Take [00:21] a listen. Because once you [00:24] start calling people Nazis, [00:25] we really have no choice [00:26] but to start shooting them [00:29] to be Dietrich Bonhoeffer [00:30] and sort of reach the end [00:31] of reason or even [00:32] Christianity. Bonhoeffer [00:34] decided Christianity is [00:35] not even he's a Lutheran [00:37] pastor. Christianity is [00:38] not enough. We have to [00:40] kill the guy. I'm not [00:41] judging Bonhoeffer, who [00:42] was a great man in some [00:44] ways, but that's [00:46] inevitable once we decide [00:47] that people are Nazis. So [00:51] joining us now for more on [00:52] all this is the CEO of the [00:55] National Religious [00:55] Broadcasters, Troy Miller. [00:56] Troy. I mean, for people [00:57] who aren't familiar with [00:59] Dietrich Bonhoeffer, I [01:00] mean, can you explain why [01:01] Tucker's comments on this [01:02] are so offensive? Yeah, [01:04] because for Christians, [01:05] Dietrich Bonhoeffer was [01:08] probably one of the [01:08] biggest champions during [01:09] World War two who was [01:11] fighting the Nazi regime [01:13] to eliminate, to [01:14] annihilate the Jewish [01:15] people. So Bonhoeffer was [01:17] working with a number of [01:19] folks within the Nazi [01:22] regime, really to stop [01:23] this and to get rid of [01:24] Hitler. So he was part of [01:26] a plot to kill Hitler and [01:28] hopefully bring this to an [01:29] end. Yeah. And I want to [01:31] play a clip because we [01:32] know the late Charlie Kirk [01:34] has also spoken about [01:35] Bonhoeffer. So take a [01:36] listen to this. We want a [01:39] thousand Dietrich [01:40] Bonhoeffer. We're not [01:41] going to say like we're [01:42] going to create him. I [01:45] want to find him and [01:45] encourage him. That's it. [01:46] Find and encourage. Find [01:47] and encourage. That's it. [01:49] Because I'm not going to [01:49] train people or like I [01:50] just want to find and [01:52] encourage. I also like the [01:53] Bonhoeffer because I never [01:54] want to make anyone feel [01:55] as if I'm being anything [01:56] but honest. It's going to [01:58] cost us something, God [01:59] forbid our life like that. [02:00] But eventually we're all [02:02] going to have to go to [02:02] heaven. And so Bonhoeffer [02:04] is the example of, hey, [02:05] I'm willing to sacrifice [02:07] everything I have for [02:07] God's purpose on earth. [02:08] Wow. Ironic. Listening to [02:09] those words, especially [02:10] the last words that he [02:11] said there. What do you [02:12] make of the message that [02:14] he just delivered? Yeah. [02:15] And what Charlie is [02:16] calling for us to do is [02:17] have the courage to live [02:19] out and stand up against [02:20] evil when we see it in the [02:22] world, to to have that and [02:23] not to just sit back and [02:25] not to be silent about it, [02:26] Charlie was that was one [02:27] of the things he was so [02:29] good at was challenging [02:30] people to live out. [02:31] Dietrich Bonhoeffer lived [02:32] out his faith. Tucker [02:34] Carlson couldn't have been [02:36] more wrong about Dietrich [02:37] being anti-Christian. [02:38] Dietrich was being deeply [02:40] Christian in a time of war [02:43] to protect millions of [02:43] people, and Charlie has [02:44] called us to be the same [02:46] thing today. Yeah. I mean, [02:47] this is this is all coming [02:49] on the heels of Tucker [02:50] hosting self-proclaimed [02:52] anti-Semite and white [02:52] nationalist Nick Fuentes. [02:54] And why is Tucker going [02:57] down? What many believe is [02:59] to be this very dark path [03:01] here in the last few weeks, [03:02] months? I don't know, I [03:04] wish I had the answer to [03:06] why he's going down that [03:07] path, but I agree he is [03:09] going down that path. And [03:09] Tucker seems to really not [03:11] understand what [03:12] Christianity is all about. [03:13] He seems to have a very [03:14] shallow, very narrow and [03:17] quite honestly, very wrong [03:19] view of Christianity when [03:21] he thinks that [03:21] Christianity. He recently [03:22] said that Christianity was [03:24] built on the New Testament [03:25] and not the Old Testament, [03:27] the New Testament. He [03:27] forgets that the New [03:29] Testament didn't come [03:30] together for about 200 [03:31] years after all of those [03:32] apostles had built [03:33] Christianity. And so this [03:35] idea that Tucker thinks [03:37] that somehow Christianity [03:38] is this sort of white [03:39] supremacist group tells [03:41] you that he is off base as [03:43] far as you could be. [03:45] Before you go, I know that [03:46] you're here in New York [03:47] City for a very special [03:49] reason. The national [03:50] religious Broadcasters [03:51] launch of their veteran [03:51] ministry initiative. So [03:52] tell us about that. Why is [03:54] this so important? It is [03:55] so important because we're [03:57] losing 17 veterans a day [03:58] to suicide and to drug [04:01] abuse and overdoses. These [04:02] people have served our [04:03] country with honor, with [04:05] valor, with dignity. They [04:06] have protected the very [04:08] freedoms that we enjoy. [04:09] And so we're asking [04:11] churches across the [04:12] country to reach out and [04:14] start a veterans outreach [04:15] ministry. Many of them [04:17] have veterans in their [04:18] churches. They stood up [04:19] this last Sunday and [04:20] recognized them. So we've [04:21] created this initiative [04:23] that has all the resources [04:25] that these churches will [04:25] need to bring to bear to [04:27] help these veterans. [04:28] Veterans will oftentimes [04:30] have a hard time getting [04:32] back into civilian life. [04:32] But you know who they like [04:35] to talk to other veterans [04:35] and Christian veterans in [04:36] the church is the ideal [04:38] place for them to be. [04:39] Gives them hope, gives [04:40] them a home, gives them a [04:42] mission and gives them [04:43] purpose and and takes that [04:44] loneliness that many of [04:46] them feel away. Just not [04:47] an issue for the Veterans [04:48] Administrati
